Any Argument Against Barack Obama Is By Definition Racist
Did you know that it’s racist to argue that Barack Obama should not be President?
It’s true!
We know this, because we’re told that:
- It’s racist to point out the connection between Barack Obama and a white man — who happens to be a terrorist.
- It’s racist to point out the similarity between Barack Obama and two white women — who are famous for being celebrities.
- It’s racist to point out the connection between Barack Obama and a black man — who happens to have run Fannie Mae.
- It’s racist to point out the connection between Barack Obama and a black woman — who happens to be his wife, and who said she wasn’t really proud of America until her husband was nominated.
I’m sick of the race card being played whenever someone criticizes Barack Obama. Making the Ayers connection is hardly a racist ploy, but that’s what we’re being told by the AP today. There is literally no argument you can make against this man that will not be countered by cries of racism.
Are you listening, McCain advisors?
I’m told that McCain advisors are reluctant to argue Democratic responsibility for the mortgage crisis, because they might be accused of being racists.
Wake up, McCain advisors. You are already getting accused of racism for making other perfectly legitimate points. Why on God’s green Earth would you hold back on one of the best arguments you can make because someone might play the race card?
Do you people even want to win?
That’s a serious question.
UPDATE: It is apparently also racist, or at least xenophobic, to raise any question about possible illegal foreign contributions to Obama. So says Marc Ambinder.
Repeating myself from the previous thread,
JeffG’s spot-on analysis of the racial demagoguery of the Left, particularly AP’s wildly mendacious bit.
Comment by Darleen — 10/5/2008 @ 1:03 pm
I think the McCain people are deathly afraid of the race issue and will give Obama a pass on a lot, including Wright and maybe Ayres, because of this. I wonder if any serious black leaders worry about then possibility that Obama will be such a spectacular failure that he will affect racial feeling toward black politicians for decades.
Shelby Steele seems to be worried.
Comment by Mike K — 10/5/2008 @ 1:08 pm
You’ll have to excuse me while I go to the dry-cleaners to get my robe and hood.
Comment by AOracle — 10/5/2008 @ 1:11 pm
Don’t let those false charges of racism get you down!
This video about Obama is really funny . . .
Comment by Phil — 10/5/2008 @ 1:17 pm
You mean Thomas Sowell, racist.
Comment by fat tony — 10/5/2008 @ 1:21 pm
The McCain camp has responded to the AP’s accusation of racism. From Hot Air:
They aren’t backing down.
Comment by Mike LaRoche — 10/5/2008 @ 1:22 pm
This is the best reason to vote against Obama, can we stand 4 or 8 years of being told that every dissenter from the Messiah’s administration is a racist?
Comment by SPQR — 10/5/2008 @ 1:24 pm
“average Southerner”
Yes, draw a about 40 miles inland from either coast and this is how the Left in NY City/Los Angeles/DC/Frisco sees the rest of the country.
Keep it up.
Comment by Darleen — 10/5/2008 @ 1:24 pm
Phil
I bet you’ll love this.
Comment by Darleen — 10/5/2008 @ 1:27 pm
Obama’s always been the first to screech “racism!” in this campaign, beginning when his surrogates called out Bill Clinton during the Dem primaries. I mean - Bill Clinton, now a racist? If they have no shame in that despicable action, then anything’s and anyone’s eligible for their smear. Change. Hope. Hackery. Cowards.
Comment by Dmac — 10/5/2008 @ 1:35 pm
Phil - I’ve got another one for you, a prominent black supporter of Sarah Palin offering some fierce prayer on her behalf to counteract the media campaign against her.
Comment by daleyrocks — 10/5/2008 @ 1:42 pm
You left out the part about how its racist to vote for anyone other Balack Obama. After all, anyone can look at him and see his ultimate qualification for office. He’s just the right shade.
[I'm not going to delete this comment, because if I do, people may imagine it was worse than it is. However, I will say that I don't approve of calling Barack Obama "Balack Obama" and I suspect all of the regulars here agree. If some leftist comes through this thread nutpicking, I want it clearly on record that I OBVIOUSLY don't agree with taking shots at Obama because he's black -- which is arguably what this commenter is doing -- just as I don't agree with Obama's supporters crying racism at any hint of valid criticism.]
Comment by ccoffer — 10/5/2008 @ 1:43 pm
I’ve said before that if they’re going to redefine “racism” to mean “anyone who disagrees,” then we should own it. I was told, when I didn’t like Hillary, that I was a self-hating woman and a gynophobe, which is interesting, since I am a woman who has referred to her own vagina as a Guinness-slurping warrior one. Then I didn’t like Obama, so I was a “racist.” I keep hoping Barney Frank will replace Joe Biden so that I can then be called a “homophobe” and win the valuable “haters trifecta” where identity fixations are projected on to others, and the one with the most “anti/phobes or isms” is the winner. I am frantically trying to come up with a way to identify my hatred of Joe Biden’s hair plugs. Doll-hairphobe? Misoplugist? It’s difficult to keep up. As is well known, I hate everybody who isn’t exactly like me.
Comment by The Anchoress — 10/5/2008 @ 1:46 pm
In this day, given the reflexive overuse of the word to point that it has lost most of meaning, how much is being called ‘racist’ really going to hurt? Sure, the left and MSM use it unfailingly in their attempts to shut down any dispute they see themselves losing, but when you consider that 90+ of the black vote is going to BHO no matter what, how much can it hurt in terms of the election?
It has become such an expected part of the ‘conversation’ that even non-political people I know are predicting when the term will be trotted out and seems to be pissing off a lot of them.
Comment by kaz — 10/5/2008 @ 1:48 pm
It’s racist to use the image of a two black men in an ad on the subject of Fannie and Freddie when the second black man in question had little connection to Obama beyond rumor, and when Obama had a documented and close relation to another figure in the scandal who was white.
Why not use the white guy? Why use the weaker case!?
Why use two bimbos who aren’t even on the charts these days? Why not use Obama’s pal George Clooney? They talk on the phone twice a week?
Remember “Harold Call me!” ? Where the white women at?!
McCain’s a celebrity. He announced his goddamn candidacy on Letterman.
Georgia Republican Lynn Westmoreland is right. Obama is
“uppity”
Comment by Readnek — 10/5/2008 @ 1:50 pm
“Why not use the white guy? Why use the weaker case!?”
Readnek you doorknob, McCain did ads with them both.
Comment by daleyrocks — 10/5/2008 @ 1:57 pm
Hey, if McCain still can, right up to this moment, sit in front of a news camera and say with a straight, tight, molar-grinding face and that the lipstick on a pig thing truly was a sexist dig at Palin, then bring on the “My Name is Earl” karma. (I predict McCain will launch his own Earl-fixing-his-karma program to try to recover some of the old straight-talk/strong character cred once he’s lost the election.)
McCain is a racist. McCain is a racist. Shout it loud. It has at least as much substance to it as the lipstick on a pig riff not long ago, probably more.
Comment by Larry Reilly — 10/5/2008 @ 1:59 pm
Why not use the white guy?
They did.
Comment by Darleen — 10/5/2008 @ 2:01 pm
McCain/Palin ticket is not running against Obama/Biden. They are running against the media.
Comment by David Gagnon — 10/5/2008 @ 2:03 pm
Its telling that Obama opted to align and promote himself with being black and immersed himself in the Chicago community therein. It gets totally lost in the narrative that he is equally white. But lost it must be if he is to be able to continually use race as the ultimate weapon. Its effective and once assigned very difficult to overcome or escape from. In our hyper-sensitive all-are-equal culture, being labeled a racist trumps all other accusations, no matter if laws have been broken, no matter how egregious.
Comment by Dana — 10/5/2008 @ 2:03 pm
To quote myself blogging this morning:
Comment by tree hugging sister — 10/5/2008 @ 2:06 pm
Go Patrick!
Comment by baldilocks — 10/5/2008 @ 2:11 pm
Re: the AP gibberish.
Anyone find a little cognitive dissonance in a article about every criticism of Obama is “racist” but then the democrats say
Calling Governor Palin a “fluffy bunny” is not sexist?
Oh, right. It’s not like she is a real woman or anything. Then it’s ok.
Carry on, my future Liberal Fascist Overlords.
Comment by Darleen — 10/5/2008 @ 2:14 pm
Is anyone having trouble getting through to the site today? I am, but I want to know if it’s just me. It might seem a little weird to ask here, since you’re by definition getting through if you can see this, but if it’s been difficult I’d like to know.
Comment by Patterico — 10/5/2008 @ 2:24 pm
Patterico, its been dreadfully slow all day to refresh or pull up comments.
Comment by Dana — 10/5/2008 @ 2:31 pm
The NObama camp has played the race card from the start, it’s their get out of jail free card. I could care less what color NObama is, he could be green or purple for all I care. I despise him for everything he STANDS FOR, not that fact that he is black.
Comment by Scott — 10/5/2008 @ 2:33 pm
Patterico - I’m with Dana. The site is real slow. I also got one error message posting a comment of the kind I got when the site was down.
Comment by daleyrocks — 10/5/2008 @ 2:35 pm
I’ve had trouble getting through a few times, but usually succeed on the second or third try.
Also, cleanup on aisle 12?
Comment by fat tony — 10/5/2008 @ 2:35 pm
Petterico, I’m having problems both reading and submitting comments.
Comment by SPQR — 10/5/2008 @ 2:35 pm
Racists just convicted OJ.
(also had trouble trouble getting onto the site).
Comment by Perfect Sense — 10/5/2008 @ 2:39 pm
http://mccainpalin.blogspot.com/2008/10/listening-to-obamas-tone-todayhe-is.html
Listening to Obama’s tone in today’s rally in NC… shows that Obama is afraid that this is going to bring him down, he owns it, because he was linking McCain to Bush the last Month, so The McCain Campaign is shooting back on his links to his radical friends, i don’t know if this is going to bring a win for McCain, McCain is taking a risk, but one thing is sure, That McCain took over the theme and the day, and forced the media to address the issue and report it, and obama to defend himself, rather then talk about his comfortable issues like the economy and health care.
One thing is sure, McCain has no choice, as long as the election is about the economy he will lose, once he turns in the election on Obama , and makes the Election as a referendum on Obama, he can pull out a win, McCain has nothing to lose, he is anyway not benefiting anything from being presidential, he has to campaign hard ,and attack , attack and attack, it worked against Romney and it can work against Obama.
Comment by jacob — 10/5/2008 @ 2:43 pm
If Obama gets elected President, this will be so awesome! Any criticism of the President or his policies will be called “racist,” or even “hate speech.”
What a handy way to shut down (perhaps literally) all opposition.
Comment by 29Victor — 10/5/2008 @ 2:46 pm
To all having trouble posting: The Web has had a lot of slow spots lately. I blame it on “concerned conservative christian” trolls trying to crash Ace.
Comment by no, not THAT Glenn — 10/5/2008 @ 2:48 pm
Mrs. Obama also said that she wasn’t at all proud of America before her husband was nominated.
Of the two quotes, I don’t know why you go with the less controversial one.
Comment by Daryl Herbert — 10/5/2008 @ 2:50 pm
jacob
McCain cannot…. CANNOT allow Obama to frame the economic problems as the exclusive fault of Republican ideology. Obama is saying “capitalism is the fault, socialism is the cure.”
We might as well all don little, red babushkas and tend only to our People Owned front porches.
Comment by Darleen — 10/5/2008 @ 2:50 pm
I had better sense than to take Mrs. Obama’s “never proud of America until…” remark literally.
BTW, I’m not voting for Obama.
Comment by Jack — 10/5/2008 @ 2:52 pm
Sounds like Redneck and Philth are very, very confident of an Obama win. No indication of panic at all.
Comment by Jim Treacher — 10/5/2008 @ 2:52 pm
I’m with you in spirit, Jacob, but commas are not periods.
Comment by Jim Treacher — 10/5/2008 @ 2:57 pm
What do you have against commas, they are the most versatile form of punctuation known to man, they fit in everywhere, they are never inappropriate.
Comment by Patterico — 10/5/2008 @ 3:01 pm
Just taking a stab here, anchoress - chaetomoscheymataphobia (fear of hair implants)
Comment by Alice H — 10/5/2008 @ 3:01 pm
hey Mccain:
If you love this country so much then START TO FIGHT LIKE YOU DO.
Win - Fight - Do SOMETHING.
Comment by waiting & hoping — 10/5/2008 @ 3:01 pm
Treacher hates commas, he’s a racist
Comment by SPQR — 10/5/2008 @ 3:06 pm
Patterico - Are commas the new black?
Comment by daleyrocks — 10/5/2008 @ 3:08 pm
If the site is slow, it may be due to the traffic from HotAir, Malkin and AoSHQ.
Comment by Karl — 10/5/2008 @ 3:09 pm
It’s racist to use the image of a two black men in an ad on the subject of Fannie and Freddie when the second black man in question had little connection to Obama beyond rumor,
So the Washington Post is a rumor now ?
He has shaved eight points off his golf handicap, taken a corner office in Steve Case’s D.C. conglomeration of finance, entertainment and health-care companies and more recently, taken calls from Barack Obama’s presidential campaign seeking his advice on mortgage and housing policy matters.
Racist.
Comment by Mike K — 10/5/2008 @ 3:17 pm
Madam Anchoress, it’s clear you are a tool of the patriarchy since you dislike Biden’s hair plugs.
I’m not sure exactly how, but it has something to do with you internalizing the ideal picture of how a man should look and seeing Biden as lacking in stereotypical masculinity instead of differently abled in the hair growth area. And the fact that I’m unsure about how it proves your inner feelings takes away nothing from the truth of my feelings.
(Shoot, that was supposed to be obviously over-the-top, but it sounded exactly like some people’s serious writing!)
Comment by MamaAJ — 10/5/2008 @ 3:26 pm
Readnek writes:
It was not rumor. It was what Raines himself told a reporter for the Washington Post. The WaPo mentioned it twice thereafter with no objection from the Obama campaign — which is very good at complaining to the press about any story they don’t like, even accurate ones. It is a measure of how in the tank the MSM is for Obama that a WaPo “fact checker” would call the paper’s own reporting to be “flimsy,” when they had the story from one of the principal sources.
When it comes to playing the race card, Readnek, please try to have your facts straight.
Comment by Karl — 10/5/2008 @ 3:27 pm
AARRGGHH! NOOOOOOOO! A comma joining two independent clauses creates a comma splice. One needs to use a semicolon to create a compound sentence or at the very least add a coordinating conjunction after the comma.
Comment by goddessoftheclassroom — 10/5/2008 @ 3:35 pm
Treacher will next display his bigotry against apostrophes.
Readnek has had any facts straight before, Karl, I doubt he intends to improve anytime soon.
Comment by SPQR — 10/5/2008 @ 3:35 pm
I, too, am experiencing slowness, but I assumed, perhaps mistakenly, that it was due to my underuse of commas.
Comment by MamaAJ — 10/5/2008 @ 3:41 pm
MamaAJ, you use them beautifully and, more importantly, correctly!
Comment by goddessoftheclassroom — 10/5/2008 @ 3:44 pm
Comment by goddessoftheclassroom — 10/5/2008 @ 3:35 pm
SNOOOOORRRRRRRR!
****return snark filter to previous, active setting****
Comment by AOracle — 10/5/2008 @ 3:44 pm
Comment by goddessoftheclassroom — 10/5/2008 @ 3:44 pm
Please elucidate to this previously failing English student; but, wouldn’t your previous compliment to MamaAJ be more correct with a semi-colon following “beautifully”?
Comment by AOracle — 10/5/2008 @ 3:47 pm
If it’s racist to point out the fact that Obama’s only white friend is a terrorist who called for young people to kill their parents back in the 1970s…then call me a proud racist. If you aren’t a racist, as defined by the Democrats, you are enemy of America.
Comment by j curtis — 10/5/2008 @ 3:54 pm
“Hey, if McCain still can, right up to this moment, sit in front of a news camera and say with a straight, tight, molar-grinding face…”
Mawy must be a girl, for only someone quite young would realize that posting the exact same statement under two different subject headers doesn’t exactly help make your case, inane though it may be. But let’s give her a hand anyway, because she’s our Big Girl now!
Comment by Dmac — 10/5/2008 @ 3:56 pm
Whenever I’m accused of being racist for disliking Obama, I simply act surprised. “What? He’s white, how can I be racist?”
Then they splutter and gibber. “No, he’s black! Are you crazy?!”
“He’s half-black and half-white. You choose to see him as a black; I choose to see him as white. Any argument?”
And there isn’t one, really. Obama seems like a quantum wave function–his race collapses into black or white according to the observer.
Comment by Flubber — 10/5/2008 @ 3:59 pm
I will overlook your previous snark (BTW, you should have added an “E” to the end of “snore”) to answer your question.
1. My compliment does not contain a compound sentence, i.e., two independent clauses. It contains compound adverbs, the second of which is modified by an adverb phrase set off with commas for emphasis. I have punctuated it correctly.
2. Your question should have used an adverbial conjunctive after the semicolon and before the comma or just a comma before the coordinating conjunction “but.”
Comment by goddessoftheclassroom — 10/5/2008 @ 3:59 pm
Obama knows racism when he see it; his grandmother was a typical, white person.
Comment by goddessofthecourtroom — 10/5/2008 @ 4:09 pm
Correct grammar, and the discussion thereof, is, as everyone knows, very, very racist.
/stop me before I comma-ent again
Comment by MamaAJ — 10/5/2008 @ 4:10 pm
Obama knows racism when he see it; he told us that his grandmother was a “typical, white person.”
Comment by goddessofthecourtroom — 10/5/2008 @ 4:10 pm
Comment by goddessoftheclassroom — 10/5/2008 @ 3:59 pm
Well, I sometimes use “however” as the adverbial conjunctive, but prefer the conciseness of “but” (I think it’s an “old school” thing)!
The “E” dropped off of “snore” due to being awakened by the loudness of same.
As I noted previously, the finer points of grammar were not my shining hour. Thank you, for your help.
Comment by AOracle — 10/5/2008 @ 4:13 pm
MamaAJ, the sad thing is that there are liberal professors who sincerely believe that. I, on the other hand, believe that education is the great leveler and the key to opportunity.
Comment by goddessoftheclassroom — 10/5/2008 @ 4:16 pm
Important Safety Tip to Obama’s Chosen Ones:
You will only be able to play the “racist” card against white Americans until the day they collectively wake up in the morning, look in their bathroom mirrors, and tell themselves, “Whoa, I guess I really am a racist. But y’know what? I feel really good about it too.”
What that “radicalizing moment” comes, all bets will then be off.
Comment by MarkJ — 10/5/2008 @ 4:17 pm
Now Obama has been accused of fathering a black child. He has.
Comment by Psyberian — 10/5/2008 @ 4:19 pm
Just think: if W hadn’t used the racist charge of fathering a black child against McCain, then all this mess wouldn’t have happened to the Republican Party. So because racism prevented McCain from winning and Captain Hayseed, well, sucks, the republicans are going to loose.
Ergo, racism is causing McNap – AND the GOP - to loose.
Comment by Psyberian — 10/5/2008 @ 4:30 pm
Now Obama has been accused of fathering a black child
but, interesting enough, he’s never been accused of impregnating his own daughters.
Comment by Darleen — 10/5/2008 @ 4:32 pm
“AND the GOP - to loose.”
I’m unclear about the nature of this comment - does that mean McCain is of “loose morals” or something of that nature?
Comment by Dmac — 10/5/2008 @ 4:39 pm
You’re absolutely right Dmac. I should have said “lose” rather than “loose.” Excuse my spelling.
Comment by Psyberian — 10/5/2008 @ 4:57 pm
Just making a little joke there (yes, very little).
Comment by Dmac — 10/5/2008 @ 5:35 pm
This more than anything else is a major reason why minorities do not advance as far as they should in the country. Anytime there is the slightest criticism of them many of them yell racism and lawsuits follow quickly. McCain and Palin will be viewed as racists just as Hillary and Bill were viewed as racists because it is racist to run against the Obamanation and heaven forbid if you win, they you deserve to burn in hell for eternity.
Comment by eaglewingz08 — 10/5/2008 @ 6:01 pm
You’re tired of the “race card”? CRY ME A RIVER!!!
I’m 61 years old and I’ve been black every one of those years. You want to talk “tired” give me a ring.
Comment by David Ehrenstein — 10/5/2008 @ 6:04 pm
McCain should make points in rapid succession on Ayers, foreign campaign donations, Rezko, Fannie Mae. Obama comes back with “racist” each time. Eventually, the public discounts any charge of racist.
Make Obama and his campaign overplay the race card.
Comment by Indythinker — 10/5/2008 @ 6:11 pm
chaetomoscheymataphobia - okay. I have that. Obviously, I need all sorts of health care insurance to deal with Joe Biden’s hair plugs. Thanks, Alice!
Comment by The Anchoress — 10/5/2008 @ 6:14 pm
I wonder if any media source will ask Bill Clinton and Hillary Clinton whether this is racism and, if so, what they will say?
Comment by DRJ — 10/5/2008 @ 6:34 pm
Why isn’t McCain running ads showing what Jeremiah Wright said? People have forgotten about Obama’s crazy preacher for 22 years.
http://www.floppingaces.net/2008/10/04/would-you-vote-for-president-for-a-man-who-belonged-to-the-kkk/
Comment by Indythinker — 10/5/2008 @ 6:36 pm
Response to comments #31, #41 and #71:
I sure hope the McCain campaign reads this blog (and Hot Air and AoSHQ)–there sure are some good strategy ideas out here!
Comment by Kathy from Kansas — 10/5/2008 @ 6:38 pm
Response to comments #31, #41 and #71:
I sure hope the McCain campaign reads this blog (and Hot Air and Ace of Spades and Gateway Pundit)–there sure are some good strategy ideas out here!
Comment by Kathy from Kansas — 10/5/2008 @ 6:39 pm
Sarah saying Ayers and BHO are pals is not racist. Had she said Barack and Bill are home boys now that would be racist.
Comment by john personal trainers austin tx — 10/5/2008 @ 7:06 pm
Desperate.
Comment by love2008 — 10/5/2008 @ 7:19 pm
Well, what’s Obama supposed to do, run on his record?
Comment by Jim Treacher — 10/5/2008 @ 7:28 pm
It is MUCH worse to be a communist/terrorist than to be a racist. So they call everyone a racist. So I am one, by their account. So there.
Now that that is out of the way, I won’t stop point out BHO’s flaws. What will they do now?
Comment by Liberals are [derogatory term deleted] — 10/5/2008 @ 7:28 pm
Desperate and silly. That’s what you are all turning into. Poor losers, whining over nothing. But go ahead and bring out all the dirt you can find on Obama. I would love to read them. That is, those which are true. No more lies. Just the truth.
Comment by love2008 — 10/5/2008 @ 7:34 pm
Lovey, what are your thoughts about Obama’s connection to Ayers? Do you think they have been associated? Do you think they have worked together? Do you think Obama respects Ayers? Do you think Ayers is an unrepentant domestic terrorist?
What do you think the truth is about this issue?
Comment by Pablo — 10/5/2008 @ 7:39 pm
Fun stuff
And I’ll top that off with some more of Palin’s lies
Comment by Readnek — 10/5/2008 @ 7:44 pm
Sorry here’s the link
“In a New York bankruptcy case, he referred to a judge as a “crooked, slimy Jew.” During the bankruptcy dispute, he filed a civil-rights lawsuit claiming Jewish bankruptcy judges and lawyers were conspiring to steal his property. He asked a court to bar “any Jew from having anything to do with plaintiff’s property.”
I love Fox.
Comment by Readnek — 10/5/2008 @ 7:48 pm
Clean up in aisle 80.
Readnek, when you catch up to Biden’s lies, then we’ll pay attention to you. Not sooner.
Comment by SPQR — 10/5/2008 @ 7:49 pm
#82
Pablo, what has Bill Ayers got to do with this election? Do you have incriminating evidence, linking him with Obama? Does Obama support what he did in the 70s? Is there some secret dark story about these two men I know not of? Please spill it. I am all ears! ( Or eyes).
Comment by love2008 — 10/5/2008 @ 7:51 pm
Desperately seeking Sarah.
Comment by papertiger — 10/5/2008 @ 7:55 pm
Lovey, Bill Ayers has to do with Obama’s judgement and his political philosophy. Now, since I’ve answered your question, please answer mine, as follows: Do you think they have been associated? Do you think they have worked together? Do you think Obama respects Ayers? Do you think Ayers is an unrepentant domestic terrorist?
4 questions. Expand if you like, but yes/no answers are perfectly acceptable.
Comment by Pablo — 10/5/2008 @ 8:00 pm
I am utterly amazed to know how supporters of Obama expect their candidate to transcend race when they cannot accept any criticism without saying that it’s motivated by race. This is a dirty game they are choosing to play and such a manipulation of facts will bring nothing good to this country.
Using “race” to shut people up is also a lot like the tactic of “getting in their faces”. Shut down debate and free speech is called a bullying tactic. That certainly is not change and it does not lift people to be their best.
The Obama campaign and supporters will be SHOCKED when the results of this election prove that they were not as far ahead as they thought, that their candidate’s sordid past and lack of experience were overlooked and that the media lied to them about how perfect their man was thought to be.
Comment by pjean — 10/5/2008 @ 8:01 pm
Africa is generally considered to be the cradle of mankind. In honor of that generally accepted supposition, I believe that it would be fitting for all Americans to self designate as true African-Americans for the next month.
So, speaking as an African-American, I must say that I am appalled at the type of people with whom my African-American (and Christian, I must add) brother, Barack Obama, has consorted since a very early age. Perhaps he was bearing witness to the socialists, communists, terrorists, racists and felons who appear to have filled his life but I must admit some reservations concerning the probability of that being true.
Unless my dear brother Barack can provide a believable explanation concerning his relationship with the white devil felon Tony Rezko, I fear that I must cast my vote for John McCain. My African-American roots forbid me to do otherwise.
Comment by Rick Ballard — 10/5/2008 @ 8:01 pm
Quid pro quo:
The evidence isn’t incriminating of anything, but it is probative of a long, close association. Not quite as tight as with Rev. Wright, but they burned through $150,000,000.00 together, at the very least.
He says he doesn’t and I see no reason to dispute that. But Ayers is more than the Weathermen’s acts of war. Obama may denounce the acts, but Ayers doesn’t. His mindset hasn’t changed. He’s just stopped trying to blow shit up. And Obama respects him. That raises legitimate questions.
Obama would like it to be secret and dark, hence Action Wires and Truth Squads trying to squelch and public discussion of the Obama/Ayers/CAC/Woods Fund association. But it isn’t secret and dark. Stanley Kurtz is telling it best, having reviewed the record, despite great effort to cut him off and shut him up.
Comment by Pablo — 10/5/2008 @ 8:10 pm
Interview with Bill Ayers
Two years old.
Obama’s “Fact Check” on Ayers
Obama respects this guy. And he won’t say otherwise. All he’ll say is that he denounces the violence.
Comment by Pablo — 10/5/2008 @ 8:23 pm
Readnek @84 - Is that guy related to Alcee Hastings or Cindy McKinney?
Comment by daleyrocks — 10/5/2008 @ 8:27 pm
Pablo - Don’t forget the Rathke/SDS/Ayers/Weathermen connection.
Rathke went on to found ACORN for whom Obama worked, then trained their leaders. He also used their shock troops in his election campaigns in the past and has paid them at least $800,000 in this campaign. ACORN is a serial election fraud violator and has also been involved in the current mortgage mess. Obama sued Citicorp on behalf of ACORN in Chicago in the 1990s on redlining type issues. Rathke also runs a chapter of the SIEU. Nice incestuous relationships the Messiah has with odd ducks. Klonsky, a Woods grantee was also a SDS and Weatherman member I believe.
Comment by daleyrocks — 10/5/2008 @ 8:35 pm
#88
Pablo, to answer your question,
1) Do you think they have been associated?
Yes. Just like McCain and the Keating 5.
2) Do you think they have worked together?
Yes. Just like any two people that happen to find themselves working in the same place.
3) Do you think Obama respects Ayers?
Yes and no. For being a fellow human being, yes. For his actions, no. He has already denounced them.
4) Do you think Ayers is an unrepentant domestic terrorist?
Yes. He said so himself.
So, now answer my question. Is there any incriminating evidence linking these two men? Can I see it?
Comment by love2008 — 10/5/2008 @ 8:37 pm
And what happened there? What did McCain do there? What does he have to say about it since?
They didn’t simply happen to be there, they chose to be there. Twice. Woods and CAC. They volunteered together.
Nice dodge, but no sale. Obama has denounced the violence, and only the violence. He still respects the man and his philosophy. He respects Ayers infinitely more than he does, say, Sarah Palin.
There’s plenty of evidence linking them, though I don’t know that incriminating is an appropriate word choice. No one has suggested that they’ve done crimes together. But they are clearly fellow travelers. Obama’s first campaign was launched in Ayers’ house ferchrissakes.
I’d suggest that you read some Kurtz. If you’d like to rebut him, feel free. But I’m wondering whether you think it was appropriate for the Obama campaign to send out a notice asking people to scream him off the air. If there’s no story here, why try to shut him down?
Comment by Pablo — 10/5/2008 @ 8:56 pm
the sad reality is, is that you could tell an obama supporter that he raped a 14 year old when he was in his late thirties and they’d dismiss it……they are THAT desperate to win the white house.
comes as no change for them…they dismiss every “fact” about their people….probably because to them truth is relative (which explains their issues with honesty, since its subjective….google clinton finger wag).
they dismiss charges and re-elect crack-smoking prostitute hiring mayors. they dismiss charges and again vote for men on trial for corruption and racketering as in the case of congressman “cold-case” jefferson.
and of course they dismiss and re-elect drunken kennedys who decide to park their cars at the bottom of a lake killing their female passengers.
no standards. none!…they are the whining juvenile child-like party
Comment by STEPH — 10/5/2008 @ 9:09 pm
love…it’s about political and social philosophies, the ones that Ayers and Obama share….it is a socialist/Marxist philosophy, one that I don’t agree with….
But, you do, and I understand that….it is what makes you wrong about Obama, but, I do understand…
Comment by reff — 10/5/2008 @ 9:20 pm
mcwhine is a loser and palin and her sescessionist anarchiist hubby do not have a leg to stand on !!!!!!!!!!!!
Comment by andrea from foxboro, MA — 10/5/2008 @ 9:25 pm
it is also racist to criticize community organizers
Comment by p — 10/5/2008 @ 9:28 pm
“No one has suggested that they’ve done crimes together.”
There is a rather interesting point concerning the matching funds and the Annenberg Challenge. There are letters addressed to Brother Barack from foundations with which he was associated making what appear to be declarations of redesignation of already committed funds in order to potentially defraud Annenberg into providing matching funds.
Typically “matching funds” refers to “new” money raised. Brother Barack is quite clear in his solicitation that designating money already committed to similar efforts as being directed to CAC is acceptable to him.
I’m sure the fraud statute has run but the letters speak for themselves. Brother Barack is a very crooked man even when he purports to have been working on behalf of others.
Comment by Rick Ballard — 10/5/2008 @ 9:34 pm
MEDIA BIAS ROBS AMERICANS OF THE TRUTH
… NOW, AP IS UNFARILY PLAYING THE RACE CARD …
The media’s continual bias in favor of Obama is not only disgusing, it’s against everything that America, a Free Press, and Freedom of Speech stands for. To suggest that there is no media bias in favor of Obama not only robs Americans of the truth, it insults the intelligence of the American people.
TALK IS CHEAP … CHECK OBAMA’S RECORD !!!
A candidate’s track record, and associations are always a legitimate issue when running for President. Let’s take a look at the qualifications, judgement, and experience of Obama, who is running for President. Obama had 25 years to fulfill the potential he displayed as a rising start at Harvard Law School … and, how did he live up to that potential? … He chose to align himself with anti-American racist, Jeremiah Wright for TWENTY YEARS … along with Ferrahkan, Rezko, Ayers, and others. As a community organizer, he registered thousands of voters in Chicago … then, when he ran for the state legislature, he took away their votes, by disqualifying his opponent (a black woman) on a technicality. As a U.S. Senator, he voted present 160 times … he never called a meeting on the Afghanistan committee he chaired (although he NOW says we must shift all our military from Iraq to Afghanistan). He claimed Foreign Policy experience from a 9 day whirlwind photo op to 6 countries. And, he spent almost half of his tenure neglecting his responsibilities as a U.S. Senator, so he could run for President. Senator McCain served America honorably for 22 years in the military. He proved his love for America, as well as his honor, integrity and character, by refusing early release as a P.O.W., even while being tortured. He served America as a ‘contributing’ U.S. Senator, working across the aisle, for 20 years. If Obama’s Twentyfive year track record shows he lacks judgement, and can’t be trusted, who cares what he says about Health Care and the Economy! What Obama never learned is Character. He simply can’t be trusted … ask Jeremiah Wright, a friend of 20 years, who Obama betrayed for personal ambition … and, you Obama supporters really think he won’t betray you If he gets elected??? If he gets elected, you Obama supporters will be facing a HUGE disillusionment !!!
Comment by HOWARD — 10/5/2008 @ 10:11 pm
readnek wrote:
It wasn’t rumor when the Obama-friendly Washed-up Post put it in print in July and the B.O. camp didn’t report it as a “smear!” until the McCain ad mentioned Raines.
Try to keep up, boy. You’re draggin’ behind!
Let’s go back two weeks, when you were apparently on Zwinky.com or something. Hours after Karen Tumulty of Time ragazine’s blog had a cow about the Raines ad, the McCain campaign released an ad about Johnson. She said the same things you did, and wouldn’t admit it wasn’t racism even when it became clear it wasn’t.
And you probably won’t admit it either.
You’re referring to Paris Hilton and Britney Spears, of course. I am not in the McCain camp, but I can guess: to diminish his standing as a towering political figure. I thought the ad was amateurish, but the McCain camp’s approach was correct; the “Celeb” ad got in Barry’s head.
This is how silly you race hustlers are. You bring in a reference to a 1973 movie (Blazing Saddles) which used the n-word before it became controversial (Norman Lear used it all the time on his TV shows All in the Family, Sanford & Son, The Jeffersons, etc.) to refer to a light-hearted NRCC ad that marks many significant policy differences between Ford and Republican Bob Corker, one of which was blunting Ford’s rightward pandering (Ford recently had aired an ad he shot in a church) with the disclosure that he was “palling around” with Hugh Hefner and his ilk.
In the 55 year existence of Playboy magazine, there have been less than 30 black Playmates. The chances that a man like Harold Ford Jr. — well-connected, attractive, intelligent, and potentially Senator — would have only sought the attention of black chicks at such an event are infinitesimal.
And by the way; it’s always liberals who bring up stuff about mixed race relationships. In 1988, Dems tried to make GHWB into a racist because a mic caught him referring to Jeb and his Hispanic wife’s children as “the little brown ones” as he pointed them out to an acquanitance on a tarmac.
Comment by L.N. Smithee — 10/5/2008 @ 11:11 pm
Some optimistic analysis of polling trends here. Read it all.
Comment by Evil Pundit — 10/5/2008 @ 11:15 pm
There’s a great article about John McCain at Rolling Stone Magazine. http://www.rollingstone.com/news/coverstory/make_believe_maverick_the_real_john_mccain
Comment by Original Maverick — 10/6/2008 @ 12:42 am
ok what about Mcain’s Camp playing the SEXIST card with Sarah Palin.. you can’t question her credentials because its SEXIST..
Comment by Danielle — 10/6/2008 @ 12:46 am
Patterico: re. comment 12,
I understand your reason for keeping the comment with a prominent disclaimer, but it IS worse than you think. “Shade” is a slur for “black”.
Comment by fat tony — 10/6/2008 @ 12:54 am
love2008, you’re so in tune with Axelrod’s spin of the day! Keating 5 is another example of how honorable Mccain is. He explicitly asked the agency in question not to do his donor any favors. He was explicitly exonerated of any wrongdoing by hostile witchhunting democrats. If you think Keating is going to harm Mccain, you’re crazy.
Keating and his lackeys were democrats. And they led Mccain to realize he had to become a reformer. Most Mccain supporters already know about Keating as the impetus behind Mccain becoming a great Senator.
Comment by Juan — 10/6/2008 @ 12:59 am
Why is the McCain camp afraid to tell the truth about Barack Hussein Obama(can you imagine telling someone from another country that Barack Hussein Obama is the President of the United States?) Tell the American public who this guy really is, and what he is all about!! Can someone possibly listen to the teachings of Rev. Wright for 20 years, and truely say they haven’t been influenced by his teachings, or beliefs? What is wrong with the American public today? Electing Barack Hussein Obama to the Presidency could be compared to electing Osama bin Laden to the Presidency. I can’t believe that ABC, NBC, and CBS, all support this liar. All I can say is that America is really going down the tubes! What happened to our value system? I would imagine that the likes of George Washington, and Abraham Lincoln, are rolling over in their graves! Let us hope that the American people come to their senses over the next month! God Bless America, even if Barack has a difficult time saying it.
Comment by douglas g. devers — 10/6/2008 @ 1:17 am
The Senate Ethics Committee concluded that Glenn and McCain’s involvement in the scheme was minimal and dropped the charges against them.
http://www.pbs.org/newshour/indepth_coverage/law/corruption/history.html
With public hearings looming, the bipartisan panel - three members from each party - split over whether to follow the urging of its counsel,
Robert M. Bennett, that the case against McCain and Glenn be dropped. The committee Democrats resisted, and McCain has long insisted they did
so because he was the sole Republican among the five and they feared that a pared-down ”Keating Three” would be recast as a Democratic
scandal.
To be sure, the record shows that McCain did less for Keating than most of the others, and abandoned Keating the moment he learned there
might be criminal charges against his friend. The Senate Ethics Committee gave McCain, along with Senator John Glenn, the lightest of
reprimands, saying they displayed ”poor judgment” for going to two meetings with banking regulators.
http://graphics.boston.com/news/politics/campaign2000/news/Pluck_leaks_helped_senator_to_overcome_S_L_scandal+.shtml
In November 1990, the Senate Ethics Committee convened to decide what punishment, if any, should be doled out to the Keating Five.
Robert Bennett, who would later represent President Bill Clinton in the Paula Jones case, was the special counsel for the committee. In his
opening remarks, he slammed DeConcini but went lightly on McCain, the lone Republican ensnared with four Democrats.
“In the case of Senator McCain, there is very substantial evidence that he thought he had an understanding with Senator DeConcini’s office
that certain matters would not be gone into at the meeting with (bank board) Chairman (Ed) Gray,” Bennett said.
“Moreover, there is substantial evidence that, as a result of Senator McCain’s refusal to do certain things, he had a fallout with Mr.
Keating.”
http://www.azcentral.com/news/election/mccain/articles/2007/03/01/20070301mccainbio-chapter7.html
In a confidential report submitted to the committee on Sept. 10, the special counsel, Robert S. Bennett, concluded that there was not
adequate evidence to merit a full-scale investigation of John Glenn, an Ohio Democrat, and John McCain, an Arizona Republican, several
officials said.
Only Republican Under Scrutiny
If Mr. McCain is dropped from the investigation, the political implications could be significant: He is the only Republican under scrutiny,
and Republicans could portray the scandal as a Democratic one.
There is disagreement among the panel members on whether to accept Mr. Bennett’s recommendation, according to the officials, who said this
was holding up a vote on the matter. The panel has met at least three times since Mr. Bennett made his recommendation more than a week ago.
The last meeting was on Thursday.
People close to Mr. Glenn and Mr. McCain said they were concerned that the initial inquiry had dragged on for several months without
committee action and that this was causing undue political damage.
For months, there have been persistent rumors that Mr. Glenn and Mr. McCain would be dropped from the investigation before the November
elections. Some Congressional aides close to the case say the two Senators were not as deeply involved with Mr. Keating and cut off their
ties with him earlier than the others did.
But supporters of Mr. McCain have complained privately that they believed that because of political concerns among Democrats, the Ethics
Committee was unduly sluggish in acting on whether to drop the Senator from the inquiry.
”The evidence is clear,” said a supporter of Mr. McCain. ”There’s no impropriety, no misconduct. There’s a stall going on.”
http://query.nytimes.com/gst/fullpage.html?res=9C0CE4DA133EF93AA1575AC0A966958260
Comment by Barry — 10/6/2008 @ 1:36 am
I’m a firm believer that “the people you associate with are a great reflection on the person you are (character).” What if Barrack Obama is a terrorist and/or has terrorist tendencies? Since 9/11 we (Americans) have identified many American-born citizens who have fought along site the Taliban and Al-Qaeda and killed many of our Military Heroes. Their neighbors, friends, family, and colleagues have never imagined that these individuals would be terrorists. How do we know that Obama is not one in disguise? Are we willing to take this chance America? Please say no.
Barack Obama, has no record, questionable judgment, and ties to radical figures like: Terrorist: William Ayers
Terrorist: Pastor/Rev. Jeremiah Wright
Convicted felon: Tony Rezko
Fannie Mae Accounting Fraud and Obama campaign donor/advisor: Franklin Raines
How many more of these types of people are there in his closet? Let’s reveal who his foreign campaign donors are? Could it be organizations funded by Osama Bin-Laden, Mullah Mohammed Omar, or President Mahmoud Ahmadinejad? I think we (Americans are taking a big change of voting for Obama Bin-Laden.
Comment by Ziki — 10/6/2008 @ 2:06 am
I’ a black American and I don’t think Palin’s statement about Obama’s affiliation with Terrorist William Ayers has ABSOLUTELY nothing to do with “racism”. It’s just the media puffing things up.
Comment by Ziki — 10/6/2008 @ 2:10 am
I bet Obama would be way ahead of McCain if he was white.
Comment by Kayla — 10/6/2008 @ 2:25 am
Kayla, I assume you’re being sarcastic.
Obama clearly would not be anywhere near where he is today were he not black. His resume is trumped by even John Edwards’s. As is his rhetorical skill.
It’s great that a black man is doing this well. I love that about America. I just don’t like Obama’s policies.
Comment by Juan — 10/6/2008 @ 2:30 am
Giving Up
There are different kinds of ineptitude. There is an ineptitude in policy-making and then there is an ineptitude in articulation/communication. I share this writer’s frustration as expressed in the words “Wake up, McCain campaign!”
To me, Obama/Biden doesn’t deserve to win, not only because of the litany of lies they’ve indulged in against McCain (not to mention the free pass they’ve gotten from the press), but because of the ineptitude and guilt of their party in the history of this financial meltdown (also “not to mention” the fact the Obama will become the Democrat’s Rubber Stamp in the White House).
However, if the McCain campaign and the Republicans in general insist on remaining as appallingly inept as they’ve been so far in articulating what’s going on here… well, I guess they deserve the defeat that now looks inevitable.
One can only sit in front of the television saying, “Come on, come on already! Say it, nail it, confront it!” for so long… and then one stops caring. McCain has frittered away our caring quotient. He is buying his own defeat.
Comment by Ken Sears — 10/6/2008 @ 2:53 am
Sorry for you guys - frustrated neo-cons staring at defeat in this election.
Do you seriously think the semi literate nonsense you spew in this blog would make any difference?
Wish you four years of utter despair seeing a Black man running this country and proving to be the best presidednt since FDR.
Comment by Barry Smith — 10/6/2008 @ 3:07 am
Barry Smith:
Perhaps you are aware that the Axelrod riff of the day is Keating 5.
YESTERDAY was the day where you were supposed to tell us the polls make Obama invincible and make grandiose gloats intended to demoralize GOP voter turnout.
It’s amazing how so many trolls come in here and say the exact same thing in the same little window.
I think it’s also kind funny that you called us all racists who won’t be able to bear a president because of his skin color… when it’s already documented that it’s the democrats 1/3 of whome can’t vote for a black man. Do you really think they didn’t also ask Republicans? They would have announced it if the GOP had a similar racism…
Honestly, if Obama is a great president (and we know nothing about him given his thin resume, so I guess it’s possible), then I will be delighted. I would love to see this country have a universally loved president. But more great presidents aren’t criminals. Obama’s CAC behavior was criminal, and he consorted with Rezko, a criminal, and Ayers, a confessed terrorist who got off thanks to a (valid) technicality. I’ll also note that I’ve read a lot of Obama’s writing (about Obama, of course), and he’s not exactly free from racism.
Comment by Juan — 10/6/2008 @ 3:35 am
Juan
If Obama is all that you say how come nearly half the whites are supporting him - not to say the overwhelming majority of Hispanics and Asians?
Sorry. There will be no swiftboats this time.
Comment by Barry Smith — 10/6/2008 @ 3:49 am
I think you missed the point, or else you purposely sidestepped it. It’s racist when Palin and McCain claim that Obama “is not like the rest of us”. Clearly, their intentions were racist.
Comment by Marc Hansen — 10/6/2008 @ 3:50 am
If Barak Obama were not black, he would not have won the democratic primary. If he were white, he would be a John Edwards redux, without the successful law practice, and a minor player at best.
At least John Edwards has actually helped some people, by winning for them.
Comment by Jack — 10/6/2008 @ 5:06 am
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People are supporting Obama because the media has done such an incredibly poor job of vetting him. This has been done on purpose because the media knows he cannot win if the truth is known.
It’s time for the truth to be known. Obama has no accomplishments, no plans that hold up to close scrutiny and associates with undesireable individuals.
Drop the swiftboat line…you are embarrasing yourself. Kerry was a liar and got caught. The same will happen to Obama.
Comment by roger — 10/6/2008 @ 5:09 am
If he had started his political career in Hitlers house, I’d be calling him a NAZI too…
A white domestic bomb throuwing terrorist…
Let me say it again…
A white domestic bomb throuwing terrorist…
(HOW MANY DO YOU KNOW?)
Comment by DocJohn — 10/6/2008 @ 5:17 am
Roger, Since you are uninformed on obama’s accomplishment, I thought that you might want to take a look at few of the accomplishment’s of our next president.
http://www.liveleak.com/view?i=274_1203549099
As for his plans for this country I suggest you visit obama’s website, adn mccain’s website ad judge for yourself.
It does appear racist to me when the only reason some people give for not voting for obama is b/c he is black and america isn’t ready for a black president. I have never heard anyone say they were not voting for a candidate b/c he was white.
Comment by janelle — 10/6/2008 @ 5:23 am
If you guys don’t think this race is about race, you are crazy. It’s real very real. Try driving through a white town being black, Try walking pass a older whie lady and watching her get nervous. Try being told you talk well for a blak man. There are many other incidents. The fact is in the past it did not have to be hidden. Now it does. People don’t change like that. It’s there you know it’s there most of you guys don’t define it right. We live it every day. I am truely hurt that some of you guys wont vote for him because it, but not surpised.
Comment by james — 10/6/2008 @ 5:28 am
What’s frustrating is that while Democrats and their MSM accomplices twist any criticism of Obama into some kind of racism, the attacks on Sarah Palin (often by the same people) are overtly sexist. Check out any Hollywood event, washed-up rocker concert, or HuffPo or Kos post and you will witness the most detestable misogynistic attacks on Palin.
Then when you call them on it, they have the nerve to look surprised and come back with the defense, “I oppose Palin on her issues, not on her gender!” Well, then why can’t Obama opponents be against him on the issues too, and not his race!?
Infuriating!
http://VocalMinority.typepad.com
Jewish and Republican?? Oy gevalt
Comment by EricTheRed — 10/6/2008 @ 7:56 am
The examples the writer of this column gave are not examples of racism. However, the words the McCain/Palin campaign use are carefully chosen. When Palin says Obama was “palling around with terrorists”, she is trying to conjure up images of Obama “palling” around with islamic extremists. Also, saying that he doesn’t see America like the rest of us, can be viewed as having racist subtexts. I find it hard to believe that Palin would make that statement if Obama was a white governor from Arkansas.
Comment by John — 10/6/2008 @ 8:13 am
(Boo Whoo) The Republican scary tactic’s aren’t working. (BoooWHOOOwhoo) We can’t use the reverse racist card. (BOOwhoobooWhoo) Why can’t we lie our way back into the WhiteHouse. (Gasp)He said, “Whitehouse”, he must be a racial, racist, liberal, sexist, Obama, Ayer’s, fanatic. That, (Palin accent)Hate America… Get back to the issue of getting America back on track.
Comment by i'm a maverick too — 10/6/2008 @ 8:22 am
I approve your dismissal of commentsthat were openly racist; I wish your objections to valid charges of racism had v=been equally valid.
Comment by Miande — 10/6/2008 @ 8:26 am
James, are you seriously delusional?!
The media is in the tank for Obama.
A good majority of Americans is in the tank for Obama?
If any criticism is leveled at Obama, expect the wrath of 100 screeching Obots. Yet, sexist remarks against Sarah Palin are perfectly acceptable.
I’m sorry, but I am tired of you brainwashed fools and the MSM pulling the race card whenever you feel fit to do so (and I say this as a black woman, so don’t pull the “I’m racist” bit on me!) The more you cry wolf, the more REAL instances of racism will go ignored in the future.
NO, this race is NOT about race. It is about an overly narcissistic puppet and his puppet masters trying to run this country to the ground. WHEN YOU WILL GET IT?!!!!!?!
You people make me so sick!
Comment by Vanessa — 10/6/2008 @ 8:45 am
James, are you seriously delusional?!
The media is in the tank for Obama.
A good majority of Americans is in the tank for Obama.
If any criticism is leveled at Obama, expect the wrath of 100 screeching Obots. Yet, sexist remarks against Sarah Palin are perfectly acceptable.
I’m sorry, but I am tired of you brainwashed fools and the MSM pulling the race card whenever you feel fit to do so (and I say this as a black woman, so don’t pull the “I’m racist” bit on me!) The more you cry wolf, the more REAL instances of racism will go ignored in the future.
NO, this race is NOT about race. It is about an overly narcissistic puppet and his puppet masters trying to run this country to the ground. WHEN YOU WILL GET IT?!!!!!?!
You people make me so sick!
Comment by Vanessa — 10/6/2008 @ 8:47 am
James, are you seriously delusional?!
The media is in the tank for Obama.
A good majority of Americans is in the tank for Obama.
If any criticism is leveled at Obama, expect the wrath of 100 screeching Obots. Yet, sexist remarks against Sarah Palin are perfectly acceptable.
I’m sorry, but I am tired of you brainwashed fools and the MSM pulling the race card whenever you feel fit to do so (and I say this as a black woman, so don’t pull the “I’m racist” bit on me!) The more you cry wolf, the more REAL instances of racism will go ignored in the future.
NO, this race is NOT about race. It is about an overly narcissistic puppet and his puppet masters trying to run this country to the ground. WHEN YOU WILL GET IT?!!!!!?!
You people make me so sick!
Comment by Vanessa — 10/6/2008 @ 8:47 am
You don’t have to be a misogynst to be put off by Sarah Palin. Fact is, Male Female or Neuter, she is a dunce.
Hillary Clinton was the brightest of all who aspired to this year’s Presidency. So don’t call me sexist
Comment by Barry Smith — 10/6/2008 @ 8:54 am
You don’t have to be a misogynst to be put off by Sarah Palin. Fact is, Male Female or Neuter, she is a dunce.
Hillary Clinton was the brightest of all who aspired to this year’s Presidency. So don’t call me sexist
Comment by Barry Smith — 10/6/2008 @ 8:57 am
This is truely classic. The economy is in shambles, so now republicans want to “turn the page” to flimsy Obama associations. Please note, republicans…this will NOT work. You all aren’t going to do anything outside of: 1. MAYBE getting some fringe support that won’t really swing things in your favor, and 2. More than likely upsetting FAR more of the electorate than will jump to your side.
You all shouldn’t forget that those who are inclined to believe your ‘we can’t criticize Obama or else we’re racists!’ dribble are ALREADY voting for McCain! The remaining “undecideds” I can assure you will be looking at where the candidates stand on the ISSUES. Not that you all care, but the DOW is now UNDER 10,000! This is not good for America (or the world markets). So it’s real nice to see that republicans are choosing instead to focus on Obama as opposed to this in-your-face CRISIS currently unfolding.
Yea, THAT’S gonna be the ticket to win this election.
You guys are OVER…and it’s time you re-think your approach to america.
Comment by Me314 — 10/6/2008 @ 9:28 am
Barry Smith, the comment you made at #116 above shows that your interest here is to annoy people who refuse to be silenced by fatuous charges of racism. Your smug condescension, insults, and silly name calling prove it.
You offer nothing of value. You support Obama because he’s black and you presume to know the future too. That’s pretty arrogrant, even for a juvenile racist blowhard. Yes, I called you a racist because your own words show you for what you are, a smug overbearing racist. You should apologize and make a goodfaith effort to conduct yourself with honesty and integrity. But, somehow that’s not how I expect you to resopnd, now is it?
Comment by Ropelight — 10/6/2008 @ 9:39 am
I think that racism is alive and well and will always be… Not only against blacks, but for all minorites. It is something that is in peoples minds. Its the way you feel, view, and think about certain things. I just don’t like the B. S. excuses people use to cover up their racist views. If you feel a certain way about another race let it be known at least that way I can know who hates me, and stay away from you.Hate it or love it Barack Obama is the next president of the United states, and the The U.S. has finally gotten their Comeuppance… Slavery did indeed take place in case you forgot!!!
Comment by t — 10/6/2008 @ 9:40 am
Barry Smith the Troll wrote: Hillary Clinton was the brightest of all who aspired to this year’s Presidency. So don’t call me sexist
Nope. You’re lying, Barry Smith. You’re a misogynist and you know it. You hate women. You don’t really believe that Clinton was the brightest. You’re just lying about that to CYA.
How do I know? I can tell by the way you put all your posts in bold type. That’s what misogynists do.
Oh, and since I know you misogynist liberal trolls hate this:
Comment by L.N. Smithee — 10/6/2008 @ 10:30 am
136 t- so how does it feel to have your head stuck up the affirmative action/inexperienced/marxist/terrorists-felons-racists loving dickwad Obama’s asshole? Vote for him because he’s a brother? No doubt you can be part of his hate whitey brownshirt crowd of crack smoking/women impregnating/no responsibilities/ culturally criminal/educationally ignorant/barry hussein fellating/unwashed/bling wearing underclass of mutant NWAs. You should be ashamed of yourself, but pussies like you prefer blaming others for their own inadequacies? How many stupid women have to knocked up and abandoned? How does it make you feel that one of your heroes actually was found guilty? We know you’d give Obama/Wright/OJ/Ayers/Dorhn/Mikey Jackson et al a pass every time. Do enjoy your perpetual residence amongst the dingleberries dangling from baracky’s heinie hole. btw, I am not guilty of an ad hominem attack, because it is all true. Look in the mirror you dumbass enabler.
Comment by madmax333 — 10/6/2008 @ 11:33 am
“The economy is in shambles.” Yes, it always seems to be around this time every 4 years. The Democratic majority has had plenty of time to do something. They’ve only mangaged to sit on their laurels until the economy is at the breaking point. I can live with 4 years of BO, but not 2 more years of a lame, pork barrelling Congress. If BO and the Democrats can’t resurrect the economy, it’ll be 1994 all over again.
Comment by TW — 10/6/2008 @ 11:38 am
T
Let me spell it out for you once more:
THIS ELECTION IS NOT ABOUT RACE!
Don’t state the obvious either. Yes, there is existing racism! Yes, we still have battles to fight. However, you cannot use the race card to always cover up legitimate concerns about Obama! You just can’t!
Who _is_ this man?
What the hell has this man accomplished as a Senator?
What were the results of his community service?
Why the hell does he associate with all of these shady characters?
WHY CAN’T YOU GET IT THROUGH YOUR THICK SKULL THAT NOT EVERYONE WHO CRITICIZES OBAMA IS RACIST?! So what do you call people of color, like myself, who are equally critical of Obama? Sellouts? Traitors?
Comment by Vanessa — 10/6/2008 @ 12:06 pm
So much anger here.
Comment by love2008 — 10/6/2008 @ 12:12 pm
Well what do we expect, Obama has nothing else but his race, example if he were white would he even be in the election……OF COURSE NOT
Comment by Eric — 10/6/2008 @ 12:12 pm
AFFIRMATIVE ACTION HAS REACHED THE WHITEHOUSE, thats what this election is about, Id rather have another QUALIFIED black man like Colin Powell or a woman like Condelezza Rice….examples so Im not judged as racist….its a cop out and a crutch
Comment by Eric — 10/6/2008 @ 12:16 pm
AFFIRMATIVE ACTION HAS REACHED THE WHITEHOUSE, thats what this election is about, Id rather have another QUALIFIED black man like Colin Powell or a woman like Condelezza Rice….examples so Im not judged as racist….its a cop out and a crutch
Comment by Eric — 10/6/2008 @ 12:16 pm
AFFIRMATIVE ACTION HAS REACHED THE WHITEHOUSE, thats what this election is about, Id rather have another QUALIFIED black man like Colin Powell or a woman like Condelezza Rice….examples so Im not judged as racist….its a cop out and a crutch
Comment by Eric — 10/6/2008 @ 12:16 pm
It is racist for you to say Obama got to where he is because of Affirmative Action. That is also an insult. He got there through responsible and well executed campaigning. He was simply favoured to be the one on the ticket, by the majority. This is what democracy is all about. But if you want to bring race into it, go on. Knock yourself out!
Comment by love2008 — 10/6/2008 @ 12:37 pm
I am voting for Obama not because he is black but because he understands the stuggle of the middle class people. He lost his mother to cancer and so did I and she couldnt; afford health insurance or life insurance after she retired, McCain isnt trying to help the middle class at all. So, for all of you talking about being racist. America is racist and will always be..
Comment by james holder — 10/6/2008 @ 1:03 pm
All of you people need to focus on the state of America and stop worrying about some damn race card, because if things keep up like this all races are going to be in the same boat Suffering and struggling u think not, you better wake this is not a game its a serious matter.
Comment by Anthony — 10/6/2008 @ 1:08 pm
These are fake comments, right?
No one seriously thinks that Bambi’s team isn’t playing the race card, right?
Comment by steve miller — 10/6/2008 @ 1:25 pm
Need I remind you how incredibly and overtly racist you all are?
Comment by JD — 10/6/2008 @ 1:30 pm
Speak for yourself … might want to get that sheet bleached first.
Racist
Comment by JD — 10/6/2008 @ 1:32 pm
So many racists on one thread. Wow!
Comment by love2008 — 10/6/2008 @ 1:44 pm
“The Democratic majority has had plenty of time to do something. They’ve only mangaged to sit on their laurels until the economy is at the breaking point.”
TW - That’s not entirely fair. They’ve held a heckuva lot of show hearings trying to pin shit to Republicans. They just haven’t advanced much in the way of legislation addressing the problems of the country.
Comment by daleyrocks — 10/6/2008 @ 1:47 pm
#147-
Yes, baracky was quite the loving prodigal son and yet he couldn’t bring himself to visit dear mater on her death bed. Given that Obama managed to attend all sorts of fancy private schools growing up and paid for by his grandmother mostly, why is it that Obambi’s various lovers, husbands and such were unable to assist?
Please tell us just how Obama ever helped anyone, other than his rich cronies? Obama made his $$ and even earmarked money for his lovely wife with the big ass’s employer so they could afford to give her a $100+ k raise so she could continue to send potential clients who were desititute to other hospitals, sparing her own the expense.
What did your hero accomplish with the $150 million Annenberg Challenge dough? What thievish friends of his fed at the trough there?
How come Obama’s efforts with public housing for poor blacks resulted ONLY in his fat ass developer friends padding their own pockets and the intended recipients of supposedly decent housing got figuratively sodomized instead? Riddle me these questions assclown Obama voter?
Why do you come here with your lame ass arguments? Very poor polemical effort on your part as an astroturfer. What worries you? Dipshit love2000BC says Obambi has the election in the bag. Do you think socialized medicine will actually improve health care? Seems like it is really fucked up for many Canadians in any case, but I supposee you buy lardo Moore’s “Sicko” propaganda also?
Comment by madmax333 — 10/6/2008 @ 3:05 pm
#147, Obama doesn’t give a tinker’s damn about the middle class, he despises the middle class, all Marxists do, it’s part and parcel of their dogma, their own exclusive boogyman. You know, what they call the “bourgeoisie.” That word is code for “middle class,” has been since day one.
Marxists came to the conclusion they would never get their way in the USA because the middle class, the bourgeoisie, was just too darn big, and wouldn’t get out of the way. You see, Marxist’s want to organize the working class to overthrow the social and economic elite, but the middle class keeps getting in the way of their utopian dream world.
So, Saul Alinsky came up with a plan: Fool the American middle class into voting for stealth Marxist candidates. Tell the gullible fools anything and everything they want to hear, but once their usefullness is over, why, give them that old time religion, Marxism, and reeducation camps, and bread lines, and secret police, and the right to vote in one-party elections.
That’s why Obama wants to play down his close connection to Bill Ayres and to Saul Alinsky. Obama’s well on his way to the White House, and all he has to do is avoid being outed as a Marxist cat’s paw. You’ve been had, james.
Comment by Ropelight — 10/6/2008 @ 3:45 pm
Go Patrick!
Comment by baldilocks — 10/5/2008 @ 2:11 pm
RACIST!!!!
/sarcasm
Comment by Cassandra — 10/6/2008 @ 3:48 pm
LOL…it amazes me how people come up with some of the most idiotic things to say about Obama. Is it sexist to inquire about someones foreign policy experience….is it sexists to dig into a candidates background to determine if she abuses power….is it sexist to use a lipstick term that not only the opponents top of the ticket used but also the bottom? You ask about racism…John McCain voted AGAINST making Martin Luther King Jr. birthday a national Holiday…Racism in America is so rampant and people such as yourselves like to live in this bubble and deny it. Ask yourself why Obama had trouble with white women who supported Hillary…who some have now gone to McCain when Obama and Hillary 99% of the time mirrored each others vote when McCain and hillary RARELY voted the same way….and for the record….some of you should really STOP lstening to lies from McCain about what he will do for you, Especially women and soldiers….I have looked at the voting records for 03, 04, 05, the years before John McCain and Barack Obama decided to run to see what their votes were like then….Obama ALWAYS voted for equal pay for women, better healthcare for soldiers while they are enlisted and when they come home…..to my surprise(not so much as for women because he DID say that women just need additional training) but definitely on the soldiers…..he voted against these bills….the catch…..everyone he voted against was to be paid for by closing tax loopholes….McCain is in bed with the corporations…always has been and always will. And if he is elected I feel sorru for the women and soldiers, the children of america and the middle class, because it has become evident this man will say and do ANYTHING to be president…Its funny he voted against many bills for women but then turned to a woman when he was down in the polls…and women are saying the republican party cares….Please….they care about one thing.,…The White House…Sarah Palin is going to become obselete if he is elected…he’s not taking advise or giving her real duties because he doesn’t respect women…..WAKE UP….he will turn his back on you in the end….Look at the record people…its free, it accesible to the public. For the record I am Black and I was going to vote for Hillary because I wasn’t just going to vote for a black man because he was black…the election was too important for that so I went and did the research and looked at the voting records and realized that Obama and Hillary were always right on top of voting in favor of women and the middle class, disaster victims, our soldiers…I love hillary but she lost points with me with soem of the comments during the primaries and THAT’S why I am voting obama….do the research looka t the votes then you won’t have to try and figure out who’s lying and whose not…you will know the truth…I wouldn’t trust John McCain to tell the Truth if GOD Himself had asked him for it.
Comment by Obama/biden08-2016 — 10/6/2008 @ 6:18 pm
I did not grow up going to the church I go to and not beleive what I was taught. So try to tell me that Obama went to Rev.Wright’s church for 20 years and did not beleive and support his teachings. Obama is a RACIST in sheeps clothing and if elected the costume comes off.
Comment by pickyvicky — 10/6/2008 @ 6:48 pm
Palin lacks experience, so does Obama
Both belong to groups historically targeted for discrimination
Palin/Clinton endured sexist attacks, Obama endures racial ones
There’s no denying the racism and sexism that continue to exist in this great country, but there’s also no denying many intelligent statements involving a woman and/or black man have NOTHING to do with sexism or racism.
Why can’t we all agree both candidates push the envelope to see what they can get away with (throw in some ageism there, too)? It sucks, and I wish they’d all stick to the issues, but that’s never been politically expedient, has it?
What’s worse, both McCain and Obama promised earlier that they wouldn’t stoop to negative attacks on character and questionable, borderline “whisper campaigns” and the like. Both have succumbed to politics as usual, with Palin/Biden cheerfully playing along. Only the American people lose at this game, Republican, Democratic, or otherwise….sigh.
Comment by Beyond the Palin — 10/6/2008 @ 7:06 pm
so you are fine with fact that the lamestream media has no desire to ever properly vet Obama? His past is off limits as are his despicable associations? Bob Bennett who was part of Clinton team said there was nothing on McCain with the Keating Five. The media has no interest in exploring whatever Obama did with Annenberg while workinga longside Ayers. Media is fine sending legions of lawyers to sort through Palin’s trash in Alaska but ignoring anything negative about the Anointed Shithead. Obama worshippers really are quite happy that their leftist associates in the media are in the tank for Obamatard.
Comment by madmax333 — 10/6/2008 @ 7:28 pm
If one says anything about Sarah it is called sexism, and Mr. CoCain is trying to stirr up racism. He brought in Goofy to be his campaign running mate after saying that Obama did not have experience, what experience does she have on a national level? Less than a newborn baby and she can only speak on what John CoCain tells her to say. She does not have enough brains to speak what she really feels, but has a script not a thought of her own. She does not even know Mr. Obama so how can she say anything about him? I can coach a child to say the things that she is saying and cause it to believe a lie, yet she calls herself a christian. That is not christian at all, it is the devil that is the accuser just like John CoCain and Mrs. Sarah Palin have joined forces with.
Comment by Anthony Harrell — 10/6/2008 @ 7:30 pm
Harrell, that’s pretty hilarious. You compared Obama - the top of the Democratic ticket - with Palin - the VP - in terms of experience.
And you are right, that’s the real comparison. Unfortunately, Obama is the one that suffers in comparison.
Comment by SPQR — 10/6/2008 @ 7:32 pm
This Obama supporter is not sure where all the racial bellyaching is coming from. I haven’t heard anything from the Obama camp. Could they be the same people that cried about Obama’s camp being sexist for saying unkind things about Gov. Palin? How dare they play both sides of the fence? Sure let’s roll out Wright and Keating. Then let’s criticize Michelle Obama and call up McCain’s first wife that he dumped after her accident for the the rich, drugged up former beauty queen. Typically, when someone claims cries I am not racist or this isn’t racist …
Comment by BigTrev — 10/6/2008 @ 8:19 pm
I wonder if the military guys and gals have any preference between a white and black Commander in Chief? War Veterans speaks loud for McCain, but their voice are muffled and don’t get any media attention…hmmm isn’t that prejudism? Yes! It is! How about polling the military who wins their vote? The media doesn’t seem interested in those who favors McCain! Prejudice!
Comment by Republican — 10/6/2008 @ 8:20 pm
is there any polls out there for the military, who will they vote for to be the next Commander in Chief?
Comment by Republican — 10/6/2008 @ 8:25 pm
Maybe in your world. And amongst Democrat primary voters …
This is one of the new Baracky catch-phrases. Maybe you would care to define these loopholes for us. The ones that will magically pay for the billions, if not trillions in new spending Baracky has proposed.
Good one. Cute. How is Sen. McCain trying to stirr up racism?
Comment by JD — 10/6/2008 @ 8:33 pm
I love how the anti-Obama movement tries to scare the undecideds with the terrorist “connections”. Since the muslim terrorist connection did not work so well let’s change it to Christian terrorist connection to Rev. Wright. Next we can throw in this other guy he knows who was bombing stuff when Obama was 8 … yep he had to have been involved at 8 right? Pardon me I mean Wright?
Comment by BigTrev — 10/6/2008 @ 8:37 pm
BigTrev, you can’t seem to get any of the arguments correct. So what you have done is just give us crude misrepresentations that don’t even rise to full strawmen.
Comment by SPQR — 10/6/2008 @ 8:38 pm
Your third time might be the charm Big Trev.
Don’t get discouraged. We’re used to you libs fumbling around when you try to make sense.
Comment by daleyrocks — 10/6/2008 @ 8:44 pm
On the question of white or black commander-in-chief and where the military vote will go …
I suspect that the soldiers will vote the way they voted in 2004… for the candidate with real military experience or for the one doesn’t.
Comment by BigTrev — 10/6/2008 @ 8:45 pm
get a reality check JD
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April 15, 2008
Barack Obama, Hugo Chavez, and Code Pink Funding
Melanie Morgan, writing in her weekly column at WorldNetDaily, and Catherine Moy in a special report for Human Events Online, highlight new FEC reports that reveal one of Barack Obama’s campaign fundraisers (specifically a bundler) is an active supporter of Venezuelan dictator Hugo Chavez and Islamic militants. (Joe Wierzbicki, via email)
Code Pink Funds Barack Obama, AND has connections to Hugo Chavez, from Human Events
Jodie Evans, co-founder of the radical anti-war group Code Pink has “bundled” more than $50,000 for Sen. Barack Obama’s presidential campaign, and pro-troops groups are demanding that he return the money. Evans and her son, a student who lives at her Southern California address, each also gave the maximum individual allowable donation of $2,300 to Obama’s campaign. [snip]
Evans sat on the board of directors of the Rain Forest Action Network (RAN), a coalition of capitalist-hating environmentalist groups. The co-founder of RAN also founded the violent and radical Animal Liberation Front, which the FBI listed as one of the largest domestic terrorism threats in the United States.
The FBI reported that RAN and the Earth Liberation Front committed more than 600 criminal acts and racked up $43 million in damages over seven years.
Melanie Morgan has more on “Barack’s terrorist-sympathizing fundraiser”
And again, we were reminded that the man who adored Rev. Jeremiah Wright – he of the “God damn America” school of uniting – is the same man who today calls for the surrender of U.S. troops to the forces of Islamic jihadists. [snip]
Someone who hasn’t been absent from the pews of the church of Obama-mania is a woman named Jodie Evans, who happens to work for the anti-American group Code Pink.
Code Pink has been in the headlines recently for their campaign of “counter-recruitment” where military recruiting centers here in the United States have been violently attacked by “peace” thugs.
Code Pink’s treasonous behavior on foreign soil has been equally disgusting.
The organization traveled to Iraq to give $600,000 in aid to what they called “the other side” so they could resist Coalition Forces. The “other side” is a euphemism for Islamic terrorists. But remember, according to the worldview of Barack Hussein Obama, these terrorists have nothing to do with the jihad that’s been declared against America.
Comment by Republican — 10/6/2008 @ 8:49 pm
Yeah, right! Ask yourselves this question…
Barack Hussein Obama doesn’t put his hand on his heart when singing the United States of American Pledge and Anthem?
Comment by Republican — 10/6/2008 @ 8:53 pm
Republican - I do not know why you addressed that to me, but after reading your diatribes, I would prefer to not associate with you.
Comment by JD — 10/6/2008 @ 8:57 pm
Republican, your 172 is an argument against Obama. Your 173 is the weak stuff.
Comment by SPQR — 10/6/2008 @ 8:57 pm
It amazes me how engrossed we, as a nation, are becoming in whether or not someone is a “racist”. There are more important issues at stake here. I for one would like to hear less backstabbing, name-calling and finger pointing and more serious plans for how we, as a nation, are going to
1. get our collective asses out of this major financial crisis we are currently in. Spending millions and millions of dollars on a war that should have been over a long time ago is outrageous. We send millions of “support” to other countries, but can’t even help our own people here. Our law makers just recently voted to bail out Wall Street. If I ran my household like these idiots are running Wall Street I wouldn’t have the government there to bail my ass out! Where is their accountability? Why bail them out? Take the $700 BILLION and give it to the people that truly deserve it! The working class! The people that are out there day after day busting their asses to make ends meet and not always succeeding!
2. find a way to ease our need on foreign oil and turn to other resources. I for one don’t like the idea of drilling in Alaska for the crude oil that is there, but if it means that our gas prices go down then I’m for it! We have oil reserves that Prseident Bush has hinted at touching when there was the possibility of a hurricane putting a crunch on the production coming out of the Gulf Of Mexico. Why keep them in reserve? Give us affordable Hybrid cars that the “little” guy can afford!
3. come up with a truly workable comprehensive healthcare plan for EVERYONE! I fall in that “middle class” specification and find it difficult to get healthcare that is affordable. Medical bills are outrageous not to mention the cost of dental care and vision care for myself and my daughter!
I truly don’t want to hear the candidates turn into kindergarteners for the next month! Personally I don’t see that EITHER candidate has proven to me that they can run this country of our successfully! I want an ADULT in the Oval Office, not a couple of five year olds that never learned how to play well with others.
I am voting this November, and I’m sending a message when I do. I am a Democrat, but this year I and my fiance are voting Independent!
If the Democrats and the Republicans want our votes back then come up with solutions to the problems we have. Solutions that will TRULY work! Don’t give us answers that you think we want to hear just to get our votes.
Comment by Fed up in Oh — 10/6/2008 @ 9:03 pm
O.K. SPQR - but still 172 and 173 is connecting-the-dots
JD, i bloops, it was meant for Big Trev
Comment by Republican — 10/6/2008 @ 9:06 pm
Fed up in OH, “give us affordable Hybrid cars” ? What the hell does that mean? That sounds so “Democratic” to believe that government “gives” you “solutions”.
This nonsense about sending “millions” to support other countries but claiming that we “can’t even help our own people here” is ridiculous. Our foreign aid is actually a tiny fraction of the social spending that this nation already spends every year.
Where does this silliness come from?
Comment by SPQR — 10/6/2008 @ 9:10 pm
SPQR
Axelrod, the Baracky campaign, and Chairman Dean
Comment by JD — 10/6/2008 @ 9:13 pm
JD, and here I thought it spontaneously came from manure like fungus.
Comment by SPQR — 10/6/2008 @ 9:16 pm
Nope. Those are mushrooms.
Comment by JD — 10/6/2008 @ 9:18 pm
JD, fed on BS and raised in the dark … are mushrooms?
And here I thought it best described Obama’s cultists.
Comment by SPQR — 10/6/2008 @ 9:18 pm
“BUBBLES WILL EVENTUALLY BURST” - BARACK HUSSEIN OBAMA IGNORAMUS SUPPORTERS WILL BURST (and i’ll be happy to burst their bubbles)
Obama caught asking Iraq to delay troop pull out
By Leo on September 18th, 2008
Cross posted from Leaning Straight UpOK, I admit that I am no fan of Obama, but that is a matter of policy and ideology.
Now I have cause to dislike him personally, and I may official upgrade him to scumbag.
Via Hot Air:
Amir Taheri accuses Barack Obama of interfering in the attempt to negotiate a status-of-forces agreement with Iraq while making his trip to Baghdad in July. In his New York Post column Taheri quotes the Iraqi Foreign Minister, on the record, telling him that Obama tried to convince the Iraqis to end the negotiations and instead ask the UN for another one-year extension to the current mandate. That would have left US troops in current position for another year, but more importantly, would have provided the US a diplomatic setback that Obama could have exploited on the campaign trail:
WHILE campaigning in public for a speedy withdrawal of US troops from Iraq, Sen. Barack Obama has tried in private to persuade Iraqi leaders to delay an agreement on a draw-down of the American military presence.
According to Iraqi Foreign Minister Hoshyar Zebari, Obama made his demand for delay a key theme of his discussions with Iraqi leaders in Baghdad in July.
“He asked why we were not prepared to delay an agreement until after the US elections and the formation of a new administration in Washington,” Zebari said in an interview.
Obama insisted that Congress should be involved in negotiations on the status of US troops - and that it was in the interests of both sides not to have an agreement negotiated by the Bush administration in its “state of weakness and political confusion.”
Hypocrisy isn’t the issue here; it’s the interference of Obama in military and diplomatic affairs. Just on diplomacy, interfering with the United States in its diplomatic efforts is a Logan Act violation. Interfering with war policy treads on even more serious ground, especially since the primary motivation appears to be winning an election without regard to whether it damages our ability to figh