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	<title>Comments on: Tosca at the L.A. Opera</title>
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		<title>By: David</title>
		<link>http://patterico.com/2005/12/18/tosca-at-the-la-opera/#comment-28421</link>
		<dc:creator>David</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 20 Dec 2005 03:59:37 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Patterico,

If they don't offer you a full time job as an editor for the Op-Ed page at the LAT, maybe you should try writing their Opera reviews.  I bet yours is much better than the present reviewer, if there is one (since I stopped reading their reviews, which are complete waste of ink).

Sounds like I need to see "Tosca" too.  Thanks!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Patterico,</p>
<p>If they don&#8217;t offer you a full time job as an editor for the Op-Ed page at the LAT, maybe you should try writing their Opera reviews.  I bet yours is much better than the present reviewer, if there is one (since I stopped reading their reviews, which are complete waste of ink).</p>
<p>Sounds like I need to see &#8220;Tosca&#8221; too.  Thanks!</p>
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		<title>By: m.croche</title>
		<link>http://patterico.com/2005/12/18/tosca-at-the-la-opera/#comment-28402</link>
		<dc:creator>m.croche</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 19 Dec 2005 19:20:49 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I'm not sure that the marriage of the Vienna Philharmonic with 19th-century Viennese dance music was ever a very happy one to begin with.  Listen to recordings from 1899-1930 of Strauss Jr.'s band. Ziehrer's band or any of the other smaller dance ensembles that dotted the landscape of the time and you'll soon come to an analogy that looks something like this:

Vienna Philharmonic : old Viennese popular music  as
Glenn Miller : Count Basie (or, I suppose, Duke Ellington)

And three cheers for Robert Wilson.  Wagner tapped into myth precisely because he wanted his theatrical material to be universal, not an anecdote about conflicting social groups in a bygone century as was fashionable at the time.  Wilson, whose work often evokes different Asian theatrical traditions, matches Wagner's purposely "timeless" subject matter with echoes from the pre-modern theater.  Wilson's production might not feature 19th-century histrionics, but it does represent an attempt to take seriously that which is most radical in Wagner.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I&#8217;m not sure that the marriage of the Vienna Philharmonic with 19th-century Viennese dance music was ever a very happy one to begin with.  Listen to recordings from 1899-1930 of Strauss Jr.&#8217;s band. Ziehrer&#8217;s band or any of the other smaller dance ensembles that dotted the landscape of the time and you&#8217;ll soon come to an analogy that looks something like this:</p>
<p>Vienna Philharmonic : old Viennese popular music  as<br />
Glenn Miller : Count Basie (or, I suppose, Duke Ellington)</p>
<p>And three cheers for Robert Wilson.  Wagner tapped into myth precisely because he wanted his theatrical material to be universal, not an anecdote about conflicting social groups in a bygone century as was fashionable at the time.  Wilson, whose work often evokes different Asian theatrical traditions, matches Wagner&#8217;s purposely &#8220;timeless&#8221; subject matter with echoes from the pre-modern theater.  Wilson&#8217;s production might not feature 19th-century histrionics, but it does represent an attempt to take seriously that which is most radical in Wagner.</p>
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		<title>By: Pigilito</title>
		<link>http://patterico.com/2005/12/18/tosca-at-the-la-opera/#comment-28386</link>
		<dc:creator>Pigilito</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 19 Dec 2005 12:40:50 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Crap; make that &lt;strong&gt;Walter&lt;/strong&gt; Cronkite.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Crap; make that <strong>Walter</strong> Cronkite.</p>
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		<title>By: Pigilito</title>
		<link>http://patterico.com/2005/12/18/tosca-at-the-la-opera/#comment-28385</link>
		<dc:creator>Pigilito</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 19 Dec 2005 12:38:58 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Dafydd,

I haven't seen it in the US for several years (I'm in Switzerland, now), but it used to come on PBS a day or two after New Years, and was always hosted by Howard Cronkite.

Every New Years the Vienna Philharmonic hosts a concert (&lt;a href="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Vienna_New_Year's_Concert" rel="nofollow"&gt;Wikipedia entry&lt;/a&gt;), which traditionally showcases Strauss waltzes.

It is a chance to view and hear the highly professional Philharmonic, albeit on TV.

I hope it is shown wherever you are.  The program is &lt;a href="http://www.wienerphilharmoniker.at/index.php?set_language=en&#38;cccpage=concerts_detail&#38;set_z_concerts=198" rel="nofollow"&gt;here&lt;/a&gt;.  The explanation for Mozart's presence is &lt;a href="http://www.wienerphilharmoniker.at/index.php?set_language=en&#38;cccpage=news_detail&#38;set_z_news=422" rel="nofollow"&gt;here&lt;/a&gt;.

Tickets are awarded by lottery and must be requested in January of the year before, which makes planning to attend problematic.

Best wishes, Alex</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Dafydd,</p>
<p>I haven&#8217;t seen it in the US for several years (I&#8217;m in Switzerland, now), but it used to come on PBS a day or two after New Years, and was always hosted by Howard Cronkite.</p>
<p>Every New Years the Vienna Philharmonic hosts a concert (<a href="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Vienna_New_Year's_Concert" rel="nofollow">Wikipedia entry</a>), which traditionally showcases Strauss waltzes.</p>
<p>It is a chance to view and hear the highly professional Philharmonic, albeit on TV.</p>
<p>I hope it is shown wherever you are.  The program is <a href="http://www.wienerphilharmoniker.at/index.php?set_language=en&amp;cccpage=concerts_detail&amp;set_z_concerts=198" rel="nofollow">here</a>.  The explanation for Mozart&#8217;s presence is <a href="http://www.wienerphilharmoniker.at/index.php?set_language=en&amp;cccpage=news_detail&amp;set_z_news=422" rel="nofollow">here</a>.</p>
<p>Tickets are awarded by lottery and must be requested in January of the year before, which makes planning to attend problematic.</p>
<p>Best wishes, Alex</p>
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		<title>By: Dafydd</title>
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		<dc:creator>Dafydd</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 19 Dec 2005 11:36:41 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;strong&gt;Pigilito,&lt;/strong&gt; can you tell me more about this "New Year's concert out of Vienna?"  What channel is it broadcast on?  What are they playing?

Thanks,

Dafydd</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><strong>Pigilito,</strong> can you tell me more about this &#8220;New Year&#8217;s concert out of Vienna?&#8221;  What channel is it broadcast on?  What are they playing?</p>
<p>Thanks,</p>
<p>Dafydd</p>
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		<title>By: Big Lizards</title>
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		<dc:creator>Big Lizards</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 19 Dec 2005 11:14:49 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;strong&gt;Thanksmas&lt;/strong&gt;

I had my annual Thanksmas party last night, and the -- oh, should I explain that? Back when I was at university (UC Santa Cruz), I didn't always have enough money to go home for the holidays; so I decided...</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><strong>Thanksmas</strong></p>
<p>I had my annual Thanksmas party last night, and the &#8212; oh, should I explain that? Back when I was at university (UC Santa Cruz), I didn&#8217;t always have enough money to go home for the holidays; so I decided&#8230;</p>
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		<title>By: Pigilito</title>
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		<dc:creator>Pigilito</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 19 Dec 2005 08:06:14 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Bummer about Ramey taking ill (he does an excellent job of personifying evil in that role).  Still it sounds as if his replacement was quite good.

It's amazing how much proper acting adds to one's enjoyment--and in my case, understanding--of operas.

Will you watch the New Year's concert out of Vienna this year?  My wife (a native Viennese) is upset that more Mozart will be featured at the expense of the various Strausses.  I can't complain about the selection of composers, but I'm not keen on the break with tradition.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Bummer about Ramey taking ill (he does an excellent job of personifying evil in that role).  Still it sounds as if his replacement was quite good.</p>
<p>It&#8217;s amazing how much proper acting adds to one&#8217;s enjoyment&#8211;and in my case, understanding&#8211;of operas.</p>
<p>Will you watch the New Year&#8217;s concert out of Vienna this year?  My wife (a native Viennese) is upset that more Mozart will be featured at the expense of the various Strausses.  I can&#8217;t complain about the selection of composers, but I&#8217;m not keen on the break with tradition.</p>
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