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	<title>Comments on: The Power of the Jump™: L.A. Times Still Burying Evidence that CBS Presented Forged Documents</title>
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	<description>Harangues that just make sense</description>
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		<title>By: M. Simon</title>
		<link>http://patterico.com/2004/09/11/the-power-of-the-jump-ila-timesi-still-burying-evidence-that-cbs-presented-forged-documents/#comment-4400</link>
		<dc:creator>M. Simon</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 30 Nov 1999 00:00:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Why was the train wreck inevitable?

Collusion. Leads to collision.

&lt;a HREF="http://powerandcontrol.blogspot.com/2004/09/out-on-limb.html" rel="nofollow"&gt;  Out on a limb  &lt;/a&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Why was the train wreck inevitable?</p>
<p>Collusion. Leads to collision.</p>
<p><a HREF="http://powerandcontrol.blogspot.com/2004/09/out-on-limb.html" rel="nofollow">  Out on a limb  </a></p>
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		<title>By: Beldar</title>
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		<dc:creator>Beldar</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 30 Nov 1999 00:00:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Good post, as always.

At least the headline and lede might have induced a few more readers to turn back to see the basis for the "skepticism."  On the scale of LAT bias, burying the meat on a back page still gets them a "much improved!" grade.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Good post, as always.</p>
<p>At least the headline and lede might have induced a few more readers to turn back to see the basis for the &#8220;skepticism.&#8221;  On the scale of LAT bias, burying the meat on a back page still gets them a &#8220;much improved!&#8221; grade.</p>
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		<title>By: JollyBuddah</title>
		<link>http://patterico.com/2004/09/11/the-power-of-the-jump-ila-timesi-still-burying-evidence-that-cbs-presented-forged-documents/#comment-4402</link>
		<dc:creator>JollyBuddah</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 30 Nov 1999 00:00:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>You folks need to check out Atrios where this link was posted Friday at 8:58 a.m.:  &lt;a href="http://amygdalagf.blogspot.com/2004/09/ibm-executive-typewriters.html" rel="nofollow"&gt;linked text&lt;/a&gt; 
This link is courtesy of Atrios here:  http://www.atrios.blogspot.com   Atrios claims to have spent five seconds doing a google search to find out that "proportional spacing" was not invented by Bill Gates.  Maybe the so called "experts" ought to learn the advanced art of forensic googling. 

 And, here's the Selectric Composer:  &lt;a href="http://ibmcomposer.org/docs/Selectric%20Composer%20Operations%20Manual.pdf" rel="nofollow"&gt;linked text&lt;/a&gt;

The Selectric came out in 1961. The IBM Selectric was hardly a rare curiosity that you would never have found at a military base.  The bottom line is that the kerneling, Roman font and proportional spacing flaws in the Killian documents are all factually inaccurate. 

Additional link: &lt;a href="http://http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/IBM_Selectric_typewriter" rel="nofollow"&gt;linked text&lt;/a&gt;

Additional information on how the "forgery" meme was pushed by Conservative PR firms: 
&lt;a href="http://www.salon.com/news/feature/2004/09/10/forgery/index.html" rel="nofollow"&gt;linked text&lt;/a&gt;

By Thursday, the online Drudge Report and the Weekly Standard were also trumpeting the accusations. And Creative Response Concepts sent out a press release to major news organizations stating that the "documents on Bush might be fake." 

In the release, Creative Response promoted a Web site called Cybercast News Service, one of several groups directed by Brent Bozell, a longtime right-wing activist who has devoted years to attacking the "liberal bias" of the mainstream press. His Media Research Center and other similar efforts have been heavily funded by conservative billionaire Richard Mellon Scaife. 

Can someone explain how you reach the conclusion that the forgery case has been proven?  It looks to me like this story is devolving into hyper-technical nonsense that will end up with coverage like this:
&lt;a href="http://www.usnews.com/usnews/issue/040920/usnews/20guard.htm" rel="nofollow"&gt;linked text&lt;/a&gt;

Which hardly seems like a triumph of the blogosphere over the media.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>You folks need to check out Atrios where this link was posted Friday at 8:58 a.m.:  <a href="http://amygdalagf.blogspot.com/2004/09/ibm-executive-typewriters.html" rel="nofollow">linked text</a><br />
This link is courtesy of Atrios here:  <a href="http://www.atrios.blogspot.com" rel="nofollow">http://www.atrios.blogspot.com</a>   Atrios claims to have spent five seconds doing a google search to find out that &#8220;proportional spacing&#8221; was not invented by Bill Gates.  Maybe the so called &#8220;experts&#8221; ought to learn the advanced art of forensic googling. </p>
<p> And, here&#8217;s the Selectric Composer:  <a href="http://ibmcomposer.org/docs/Selectric%20Composer%20Operations%20Manual.pdf" rel="nofollow">linked text</a></p>
<p>The Selectric came out in 1961. The IBM Selectric was hardly a rare curiosity that you would never have found at a military base.  The bottom line is that the kerneling, Roman font and proportional spacing flaws in the Killian documents are all factually inaccurate. </p>
<p>Additional link: <a href="http://http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/IBM_Selectric_typewriter" rel="nofollow">linked text</a></p>
<p>Additional information on how the &#8220;forgery&#8221; meme was pushed by Conservative PR firms:<br />
<a href="http://www.salon.com/news/feature/2004/09/10/forgery/index.html" rel="nofollow">linked text</a></p>
<p>By Thursday, the online Drudge Report and the Weekly Standard were also trumpeting the accusations. And Creative Response Concepts sent out a press release to major news organizations stating that the &#8220;documents on Bush might be fake.&#8221; </p>
<p>In the release, Creative Response promoted a Web site called Cybercast News Service, one of several groups directed by Brent Bozell, a longtime right-wing activist who has devoted years to attacking the &#8220;liberal bias&#8221; of the mainstream press. His Media Research Center and other similar efforts have been heavily funded by conservative billionaire Richard Mellon Scaife. </p>
<p>Can someone explain how you reach the conclusion that the forgery case has been proven?  It looks to me like this story is devolving into hyper-technical nonsense that will end up with coverage like this:<br />
<a href="http://www.usnews.com/usnews/issue/040920/usnews/20guard.htm" rel="nofollow">linked text</a></p>
<p>Which hardly seems like a triumph of the blogosphere over the media.</p>
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		<title>By: JollyBuddah</title>
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		<dc:creator>JollyBuddah</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 30 Nov 1999 00:00:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>OK, IBM seems to have added security to their site. The link worked this morning.

The additional link is here: http://http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/IBM_Selectric_typewriter

and it isn't working now either. This one may be getting excessive traffic.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>OK, IBM seems to have added security to their site. The link worked this morning.</p>
<p>The additional link is here: <a href="http://http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/IBM_Selectric_typewriter" rel="nofollow">http://http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/IBM_Selectric_typewriter</a></p>
<p>and it isn&#8217;t working now either. This one may be getting excessive traffic.</p>
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		<title>By: JollyBuddah</title>
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		<dc:creator>JollyBuddah</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 30 Nov 1999 00:00:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Good thing this is a slow moving post. That cut and paste link is here:

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/IBM_Selectric_typewriter</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Good thing this is a slow moving post. That cut and paste link is here:</p>
<p><a href="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/IBM_Selectric_typewriter" rel="nofollow">http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/IBM_Selectric_typewriter</a></p>
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		<title>By: JollyBuddah</title>
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		<dc:creator>JollyBuddah</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 30 Nov 1999 00:00:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I just ran across this link to this week's Time magazine:

&lt;a href="http://www.time.com/time/magazine/printout/0,8816,1101040920-695873,00.html" rel="nofollow"&gt;linked text&lt;/a&gt;

It looks like big media is still dominant. Resistance is futile.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I just ran across this link to this week&#8217;s Time magazine:</p>
<p><a href="http://www.time.com/time/magazine/printout/0,8816,1101040920-695873,00.html" rel="nofollow">linked text</a></p>
<p>It looks like big media is still dominant. Resistance is futile.</p>
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		<title>By: Little Miss Attila</title>
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		<dc:creator>Little Miss Attila</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 30 Nov 1999 00:00:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;strong&gt;What's Frightening&lt;/strong&gt;
about this is my confidence that there have been other frauds just as egregious as Rathergate by broadcast news organizations, but people either haven't had the resources to check on them, or if they saw the problems they didn't have...
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><strong>What&#8217;s Frightening</strong><br />
about this is my confidence that there have been other frauds just as egregious as Rathergate by broadcast news organizations, but people either haven&#8217;t had the resources to check on them, or if they saw the problems they didn&#8217;t have&#8230;</p>
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