Comments on: Dog Trainer Editors Demonstrate the Power of Vagueness http://patterico.com/2004/08/24/idog-traineri-editors-demonstrate-the-power-of-vagueness/ Harangues that just make sense Tue, 18 Nov 2008 22:17:44 +0000 http://wordpress.org/?v=2.6.3 By: Patterico’s Pontifications » Swift Vets . . . Again http://patterico.com/2004/08/24/idog-traineri-editors-demonstrate-the-power-of-vagueness/#comment-40277 Patterico’s Pontifications » Swift Vets . . . Again Sun, 28 May 2006 16:52:26 +0000 /?p=1878#comment-40277 [...] I’ll spot the Times the latter part of that statement. But I don’t agree that naval records contradicted “almost every claim they made.” I have previously observed that the people who make this claim are often the ones with a very tenuous grasp of the facts of the claims — such as the New York Times’s own Nick Kristof. And when the L.A. Times made a similar claim, in an editorial about the Swift Vets titled “These Charges Are False,” I asked this question: [W]hich charges are they talking about, anyway? The ones about John Kerry claiming he was in Cambodia in Christmas 1968? The claim that John Kerry initially sought a deferment to avoid the Vietnam war? The claim that he joined the Naval Reserves, rather than the Navy, at a time when men his age who believed they would be drafted anyway often chose the Naval Reserves as a safer route? The claim that, when Kerry initially volunteered for Swift boat service, it was considered relatively safe? The claim that John Kerry knew that three Purple Hearts would get him an expedited ticket home? The claim that his wounds were all relatively minor? The claim that he managed to use those minor wounds to shave about 8 months off the expected length of his tour of duty? [...] [...] I’ll spot the Times the latter part of that statement. But I don’t agree that naval records contradicted “almost every claim they made.” I have previously observed that the people who make this claim are often the ones with a very tenuous grasp of the facts of the claims — such as the New York Times’s own Nick Kristof. And when the L.A. Times made a similar claim, in an editorial about the Swift Vets titled “These Charges Are False,” I asked this question: [W]hich charges are they talking about, anyway? The ones about John Kerry claiming he was in Cambodia in Christmas 1968? The claim that John Kerry initially sought a deferment to avoid the Vietnam war? The claim that he joined the Naval Reserves, rather than the Navy, at a time when men his age who believed they would be drafted anyway often chose the Naval Reserves as a safer route? The claim that, when Kerry initially volunteered for Swift boat service, it was considered relatively safe? The claim that John Kerry knew that three Purple Hearts would get him an expedited ticket home? The claim that his wounds were all relatively minor? The claim that he managed to use those minor wounds to shave about 8 months off the expected length of his tour of duty? [...]

]]> By: Kevin Murphy http://patterico.com/2004/08/24/idog-traineri-editors-demonstrate-the-power-of-vagueness/#comment-3758 Kevin Murphy Tue, 30 Nov 1999 00:00:00 +0000 /?p=1878#comment-3758 But of course the LA Times editors had no issue with F911. Anybody want to bet the Times will endorse Bush? But of course the LA Times editors had no issue with F911. Anybody want to bet the Times will endorse Bush?

]]> By: Chuck http://patterico.com/2004/08/24/idog-traineri-editors-demonstrate-the-power-of-vagueness/#comment-3759 Chuck Tue, 30 Nov 1999 00:00:00 +0000 /?p=1878#comment-3759 And there's this: "The pro-Kerry campaign is nasty and personal. The pro-Bush campaign is nasty, personal and false." So apparently Bush does equal Hitler, he was AWOL and Bush lied. But at least the pro-Kerry campaign is only nasty and personal. Grrrrrrrrrr... And there’s this: “The pro-Kerry campaign is nasty and personal. The pro-Bush campaign is nasty, personal and false.”

So apparently Bush does equal Hitler, he was AWOL and Bush lied. But at least the pro-Kerry campaign is only nasty and personal.

Grrrrrrrrrr…

]]> By: PRESTOPUNDIT -- "Kerry in Cambodia" Wall-to-Wall Coverage http://patterico.com/2004/08/24/idog-traineri-editors-demonstrate-the-power-of-vagueness/#comment-3760 PRESTOPUNDIT -- "Kerry in Cambodia" Wall-to-Wall Coverage Tue, 30 Nov 1999 00:00:00 +0000 /?p=1878#comment-3760 <strong>LA TIMES DROPS THE M-BOMB:</strong> The technique President Bush is using against John F. Kerry was perfected by his father against Michael Dukakis in 1988, though its roots go back at least to Sen. Joseph... LA TIMES DROPS THE M-BOMB:
The technique President Bush is using against John F. Kerry was perfected by his father against Michael Dukakis in 1988, though its roots go back at least to Sen. Joseph…

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